[size=18:913c2df900][/size:913c2df900][color=blue:913c2df900][/color:913c2df900] ive been kayak surfing in new zealand and ive hooked up with nzers paddlers and we went surfing and we have to always go right out the way where the surf isnt so good due to surfers thinking were crap and that we are going to hit them all the time and that we dont know the surfing rules,it just made me realise that england has a really good kayak surfer bond where we all get along.
do you have any thoughts on this subject?????????

See also Stowe's 'Ocean Surfing Etiquette' for constructive ideas:
playak.com/article.php?sid=206

Check out Chris Joosse's articles on the subject as well:

www.chrisj.winisp.net/articles/surf_etiquette.htm

Jeroen

Let me tell you... lying on a board, paddling out with a kayaker in front of you is... very scary. I'm a kayaker, and I think its scary. imagine a surfer...

The problem as was said, is that sometimes kayakers, even the best, get back looped and fall down the wave and then tumble to the beach plowing everything in its path - breaking everything in its path - boards, and bodies.

Not only do we need to be ULTRA sensitive to the etiquet catching waves, and if in doubt, give up MORE than our fair share - but also on the paddle out. LOOK BEHIND YOU... is there a surfer also trying to get out - move to the side 10m and then keep paddling out. This lets the guy know that you're aweare he's there, and you're doing your bit. Easier for you to move over than him.

Give some a ride out... let him grab your loop and pull one out a few times - be cool.

But never forget... to a surfer, you're a scary 18 wheel semi truck on a bicycle track...

Corran

[quote:1685e2f2fa="acsteb123"]...and not running anybody over...[/quote:1685e2f2fa]

Just made me think of THIS

oops, could be painful

Nice video.

Ive never had a bad experience with a boarder so far... Expect its just luck?

luck???????

Yeah, Lucky that I aint had a bad experience....??? Lol.

Yeah... well surfers are totally clueless people who don't understand the sport of kayaking. They don't know how interesting and thrilling it can be... And if they don't understand they might as well f***k off... Where i'm from there aint no bond between surfers and kayakers...

amen

im not a surfer personally but i do know a few surf kayakers. they jus sorta try to stay outa each othas way and they have never had any problems as far as i know. i spose the best thing u could do if a surfa "has a go" jus ignore him - theres nothing he can do cuz u can jus run him down bein in a bigger boat and all
lol

acsteb123 wrote: It is frustrating to always be outnumbered on breaks, and feel like the bastard step-child to board surfers.

T... I'd have to hang around a few times until people were familiar with me, ...

Well said. What I´ve experienced is that usually boardsurfers outnumber the kayakers in the water / on the land, so what can you do when when surfing by yourself ? Surfers know, when the window for good waves opens and they use it up more or less totally, because they are more local than you.

A kayaker doesn´t usually have that extra "few weeks" to waste into initiation, or whatever bullshitprocess that is. So the best option is to stay out of their way, unless you have some friends to back you, if things turn ugly.

On popular breaks it´s not a "I respect you, you respect me"-game, unfortunately.

It's just like in the snow where you've got the skiiers verses sno boarders crap.. Your all riding the same medium and doing similar if not the same moves.

I've seen and heard a lot of surfers exchange snide comments to each other on my arrival out the back. But if you play by the rules, be friendly and polite, and most importantly absolutly style a wave under their noses generly a begrudging level of repect will come your way.
Every body is out there ultumitly for the same purpose, so be at piece with your fellow wave rider.

Ive never had any problems with surfers b4 and im normaly the only kayaker at the beach

Hi there,

Just one more surf etiquette help:

cosmos.oninetspeed.pt/lpabreu/Etiqueta.html

Keep riding!

luis pedro
www.kayaksurf.net